Last night's File on 4 looked at a legal order called 'Special Guardianship', supposed to cement arrangements where extended family - say grandparents or an aunt or uncle - take in a child in the family. This is often called kinship care and in lots of cases, people step up to stop children going into care.
The programme is repeated this Sunday 6th March at 5pm on Radio 4. Or you can listen to it here.
Lawyers, social workers, family placement experts and Britain's top family judge, Sir James Munby have all been raising growing concerns about the speed at which children are being placed with relatives - sometimes people they've never met - and asking questions about the quality of the assessments of families - are they able to cope with a child who may have witnessed or suffered abuse?
The government's now changed the law to beef up the assessment process and ensure tougher questions are asked of potential 'Special Guardians'.
The three women I spoke to, on different sides of the special guardianship experience, tell extraordinary stories and suggest - as 'Hazel' puts it - 'we need to go back to the drawing board.'